Seminary Dropout 005: Katelyn Beaty

katelyn Beaty picOn this episode I’m joined with Katelyn Beaty. Katelyn is the managing editor of Christianity Today magazine, and co-founder of Her.meneutics, the Christianity Today site for women.

Amongst other things, we talk about:

  • Her.meneutics- the impetus for the blog and the followers it’s attracted.
  • Katelyn’s role at CT.
  • the This Is Our City project.

The article we discussed about sex trafficking in Portland can be found here, and the article about the Chick-fil-A manager here.

But you should really check out all of Her.meneutics, & This Is Our City.

Follow Katelyn on twitter here.

As always you can leave any comments, questions, or feedback in the comment section.


 

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Violence, Guns, & The Christ Follower

Last Friday we had a terrible reminder of how fragile life can be. A broken and selfish man took young precious lives.

And then the aftermath… People hurting and grieving. Millions of people via social media saying what they think should be said in these circumstances.

I’m alarmed at a few things:  First, the violence itself, also the scores of Christians with a religious devotion to guns, and the conversation or inability to have a conversation about preventing the next tragedy.

The Appropriate Response

In the immediate time after this sort of tragedy, the only appropriate thing to do is mourn, cry and be near the ones you love.

However I have to admit that I’m conflicted. Those who desire to have a serious nation-wide discussion on gun control and gun violence are rightfully told to that in the immediacy of a tragedy, this is not the time. But perhaps they don’t heed that advice because the time never seems to come.

We must ask the question: When IS the appropriate time to have this conversation? I know there are many on the conservative side of the gun control issue who are open minded and really do believe that we can have a reasonable debate about guns, but I fear that for many pro-gun advocates the answer to the question of when?, is: never. I also wonder if many in the pro-gun community believe this conversation should take place SO distant from any tragedy because they don’t want the ugliness of this violence to be so fresh on our minds, so that we can distance ourselves from the repugnance first.

So while I agree that the very day of a tragedy and perhaps the next are not appropriate times to begin the conversation of prevention. I have to ask; How long do we have to wait?

My fear is that those who are so repulsed by gun control talk after a tragedy are not really repulsed by political talk, but by political  talk that they disagree with. In fact I remember very quickly after the shooting at Virginia Tech, hearing pro-gun advocates claiming that this would have never happened if other students and teachers were also carrying guns (a case by the way that will be harder to make now that this tragedy has taken place in an elementary school), and I didn’t hear other pro-gun advocates chastising those people for talking politics so soon after the tragedy.

For some people the issue is not even about time, but that people dare offer gun control as a solution to gun violence at all. On Friday after the twitter-verse had erupted with response to the catastrophe, a prominent Christian tweeted

“You people that use a horrible act of evil to promote your gun control agenda should be ashamed of yourselves.”

We sometimes have a bad habit of calling our opinions “deeply held beliefs” while others opinions are “agendas.”

What kind of event should be used to begin a serious talk about gun control? Arbor day?  The NHL playoffs? It seems to me that this is the most appropriate event to make us sit back and ask how we can better prevent violence. Saying that we cannot use this tragedy as a way to improve, is like saying that we should not have used September 11th, 2001 to begin talking about how we should respond to the perpetrators of such a horrendous crime and how we can prevent it from happening again.

It’s also worth noting that plenty of people have been using this horrible act of evil to promote a pro-gun agenda. On Friday and throughout the weekend pro-gun facebook pages and groups were popping up as well as countless statuses ensuring us that guns are not the problem. Who is telling them that this is not the time?

Just A Fallen World

A common theme I’ve heard this weekend is: “This happens because we live in a fallen world.” I whole heartedly agree. Billy Graham hit the nail on the head, shortly after the school shootings at Columbine High School, when Larry King asked him why it happened;

“Thousands of years ago, a young couple lived in a garden called Eden, and God placed a tree in the Garden and told them not to eat from the tree”

But I fear that this response is sometimes used as an excuse to avoid dealing with the problem, code for – “this is inevitable, we just have to accept that it happens.”

We have to ask ourselves, does the gospel call us to step back when faced with the problems of the world- poverty, famine, hunger, without engaging them and meeting those needs? Why does this issue deserve special treatment?

Christians Religious Devotion to Jesus Guns

I wrote here recently about idols. I fear that guns and maybe even the idea of guns and what they represent have become great idols of the Christian Church.

When you don’t have to drive far to see a bumper sticker saying “God Guns & Glory,” that should be a wake up call.
When calls for less violence via gun control provoke an angry and hateful responses inside of us, that should sound an internal alarm.
When our views on guns don’t match up with Jesus’ views on the sword, we must pause and ask why.

Pathways To Less Violence

Let me be clear; I don’t think the government should be able to take away my dads collection of hunting rifles. I’m not a advocate for prohibition of all fire arms.

Gun control doesn’t have to be a black & white/ all or none issue. We have to ask if making assault weapons available to the consumer is wise, if longer waiting periods and other hoops to jump through are a bad idea.

It’s also not exclusively about guns, but also about care for the mentally ill.

I have no comprehensive gun control solution for which to advocate. What I do advocate is the discussion, a call to the end of demonizing others who don’t share our opinions, and for Christians to love peace, abhor violence and go to great lengths to prevent more of it and protect life.

UPDATE: I posted in a comment that the NRA was the largest PAC in the country. It’s not, and not even close. Thanks to David for pointing that out. That being said, it’s still very powerful and vocal.

Seminary Dropout 004: Roger Olson

On this episode of Seminary Dropout I’m joined with Dr. Roger Olson. Dr. Olson is a professor of theology at George W. Truett Theological Seminary of Baylor University in Waco, Texas. He has written several books on theology and specifically Arminianism. Theology nerds are going to love this episode (this is the ‘Seminary’ part of the show), but if you’re not a theology nerd, don’t let this scare you, Dr. Olson is entertaining and speaks in a way that is easily understood by us regular Joes (the ‘Dropout’ pharmacy part).

You can (and should) read Dr. Olson’s blog at rogereolson.com. His books can be found wherever books are sold.

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Are You Taking Your Spiritual Discipline in Pill Form?

I made Kate cringe once because I told her that I would be happy taking all of my meals in pill form if I could get the proper nutrition and move on with my day. She knew that it was true. In fact, for breakfast every day I blend up a bunch of nutritious ingredients that have no business being mixed together. There’s no assortment of delicious flavors, but I can check breakfast off the list.

I wonder if we do the same thing with spiritual discipline.

Growing up I was offered a select few avenues for Christian growth. Those avenues in no particular order were:

1. Reading your Bible

2. Praying

3. Going to church/Worship (I realize these are not synonymous, but they were meant to be most of the time when they were brought up in the ‘spiritual growth’ context)

…and really that’s all I can think of. A generalization of the churches stance on avenues for spiritual growth? Yes, but not by much. My experience was that if any additional paths to connect with God were mentioned, they were in passing, brought up only because they were mentioned in the scripture being read at the moment.

I don’t know when the church turned it’s back on our creative devotion traditions. My guess is that it was response to eastern mysticism and postmodernism. Instead of differentiating Christian meditation that fills the mind with things of Christ and eastern mysticism that attempts to empty the mind, we simply wrote off meditation all together, thinking ‘we’ll just stop connecting with God that way.’

I remember reading Richard Foster’s book “The Celebration of Discipline” for the first time. My sheltered mind was blown by chapters on:

Fasting

Simplicity

Solitude

Submission

Service

Confession

Beyond these categories we’re invited to experience God in even more personal ways. I once heard that Foster himself was in the habit of getting up before the sun rises and staring at the flame of a candle. Apparently, Foster found that even within the discipline of meditation he needed to personalize it. He found something that, for him, aroused his love for God.

Tony Campolo has said that in the morning he says the name of Jesus over and over again and he finds that it orients him appropriately to begin his day.

Why are we surprised when a one size fits all approach to prayer, scripture reading and worship feels stale, neutered, and trite?

God invites us to use the creativity that he gave us, to connect with him in ways as personal and unique as our finger prints.

Are we taking spiritual discipline in pill form, all the while missing out on the delicious flavors and aromas we are meant to be enjoying?

What are some personalized or peculiar ways you’ve found to connect with God? Have you found the one sized fits all model to be lacking?

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Seminary Dropout 003: Tony Campolo

In the 3rd installment of Seminary Dropout I interview a hero of mine – Tony Campolo. Listen to me babble through the intro while trying to tell Tony what his work has meant to me and then hear him eloquently talk about the election, current events, and most of all his new book “Red Letter Revolution,” that he wrote with Shane Claiborne, who will be on the show in the near future.

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Seminary Dropout 002: Mary Demuth Author of ‘Everything’

Mary Demuth is an Author and speaker who loves to  help people lived uncaged, freedom-infused lives. She’s the author of fourteen books, and has been a church planter along with her family in Southern France.

Mary joins me on SD to talk about her new book “Everything,”  as well as raising kids, money and her life as a missionary in France with her family.

 

You can find Mary at marydemuth.com and on twitter at @marydemuth.
“Everything” can be found at EverythingTheBook.com.


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Seminary Dropout 001: Welcome to the Podcast & Interview with Tony Kriz

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome to the first ever episode of Seminary Dropout.

In the first episode you’ll hear a short intro to the podcast and then it’s on to the interview.

My guest is Tony Kriz. Some of you may know Tony from Donald Miller’s “Blue Like Jazz” as Tony “The Beat Poet.” Now Tony has his own insightful, fun, and enlightening book and he joins me on the show to talk about it.

You can find Tony at tonykriz.com, and you can follow him on twitter at @tonykriz.

I hope you enjoy the podcast. It will take a couple of days for the podcast to appear on iTunes, but when it does be sure to give it a review and a 5 star rating if you enjoyed it.

If you have any comments or questions, for me or Tony, leave them in the comments section. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tony stops by the address the comments.


Why Christians (me included) Need To Be Made Fun Of

One time I was talking to a friend about a particularly hilarious bit on The Colbert Report, she said that she thought that shows like Colbert and The Daily Show help young Christians laugh at ourselves and avoid some of the pitfalls of Christian hypocrisy. I had never thought about it that way before, but you know, she was right. It keeps us honest.

This is somewhat a generational thing. I know some older Christians who resent and condemn any attempt to poke fun at Christianity. Dismissing any person, TV show, or movie that criticizes Christianity, as Godless. But I think those days are fleeting. I struggle to think of anyone my age who thinks that way towards media, and I think that’s a good thing.

Does some media mock deeply held beliefs that are dear to me and rooted in our love for Jesus? Sometimes, but those are few and far between. Mostly it’s not actual Jesus following Christianity that is being jabbed, but hypocritical and ugly moves by Christians claiming to be motivated by God, or shameless profiting on the name of Jesus.

I found this little “gem” on the blog christiannightmares.tumblr.com I regularly read this blog and while sometimes legitimate Christian beliefs are the featured “nightmare,” it’s usually something terrible like this.

 

Earlier this year I posted a link to this article from theonion.com on my facebook wall. A dear friend of mine and my parents commented saying that she was surprised at me and thought I would be on the same side of this issue as her. I’m not sure what “side” she thought I was on, but this article is as poignant as it is hilarious. As believers we should cringe at the recent trend of politicians pimping the name of Jesus for their political gain, and we should call them out on it, not reward them. Is it within the realm of possibility for God speak to someone and urge them to enter a political race? I hesitate to tell God what he can and can’t do, but if God speaks that to someone, it’s inappropriate for that person to lord it over the electorate or to leverage it to gain votes.

 

Click to watch video on The Daily Show website.

Last week Mike Huckabee was on The Daily Show. John Stewart called Huckabee out on an infamous ad Huckabee made weeks before the election. Stewart pointed out that the ad seemed to insinuate that if you vote for Obama you’ll go to hell. Huckabee vehemently denied that and said that the images of fire were based on scripture in 1 Corinthians 10 (from what I can gather Huckabee meant to 1 Corinthians 3:13), where it says “fire will test the quality of each mans work.” I’ll give Huckabee the benefit of the doubt on his intentions, but I think it takes a large suspension of disbelief to say that Huckabee wasn’t aware that the religous references along with images of fire would conjure up thoughts of hell, especially considering the level of biblical literacy of many beleivers.

The best moment in the interview was when Stewart asked Huckabee “what if they vote for someone who they feel is good for poverty, is good for programs for the poor,” Huckabee has the sense enough to say that, that vote matters too, but it only sets Stewart up for the obvious question “Then where’s that commercial?”

To be fair, there are probably some points in which I would agree with Huckabee and not Stewart, but only one of them are claiming to represent Christ, so that’s the one that is the cause for most concern.

 

Should we embrace criticism, or rebuke it? Does it keep us honest? Have you seen a good/bad example of criticism? How about a good/bad response to criticism?