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Jamin Goggin serves as a pastor at Mission Hills Church. He has been in pastoral ministry for eleven years, including several years as the Pastor of Spiritual Formation at Saddleback Church. Jamin speaks and writes in the areas of spiritual formation, ministry and theology. He holds two Masters degrees and is currently earning a PhD in systematic theology. He lives in Southern California with his wife, Kristin, and their three children.
Kyle Strobel is a professor of spiritual theology and formation at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University and is an emerging voice among evangelicals on spiritual formation, discipleship, and theology. Kyle speaks regularly and has written for Pastors.com, Relevant magazine (and Relevant Magazine.com), ChurchLeader.com, and DeeperStory.com. Kyle lives in Southern California with his wife, Kelli, and their two children.
Why do so many rock-star pastors implode under the spotlight? Why do modern-day churches become so entangled in growing their brand that they lose sight of their true purpose? Because, according to Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel, Christians have succumbed to the temptations of power and forgotten Jesus’ seemingly contradictory path to power—first giving it up.
In The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb, Goggin and Strobel paint a richly biblical vision of power through weakness. They invite readers to join them on an adventure around the world, seeking out great sages of the faith with uncommon wisdom to offer those traveling the path of Christian life. As readers eavesdrop on the authors’ conversations with people such as J. I. Packer, Dallas Willard, Marva Dawn, John Perkins, Jean Vanier, James Houston, and Eugene Peterson, they begin to piece together the new-old reality of following Jesus today. In the end, The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb offers a compelling vision of the way of Jesus that will challenge both individual believers and the church as a whole. -From the Publisher
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Latasha Morrison is a bridge-builder, reconciler, fellow abolitionist, and a compelling voice in the fight for racial justice. Having worked with youth and served as a Children’s & the Next Gen Director, she has developed an untamed passion for social justice issues across the globe. A native of North Carolina she attended East Carolina University and earned a Masters in Business from Liberty University in Virginia. She is embarking on a new role as the Director of Operations at Gateway Church Central in Austin. She is currently building a ministry to help equip those interested in racial bridge-building called “Be the Bridge”.
Tish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America, serving at
Keith Atkinson is native Austinite who was ambushed by Jesus Christ in 1973 and has never been the same since. He has been involved in Christian ministry in some capacity since he was seventeen years of age. He serves as Pastor of Red River Church in Austin.
Kenny Green is a pastor at Gateway Church in Austin. He was a meth addict for 10 years, yet has now been clean 10 years. He leads Serve and Recovery for Gateway.





Nekeisha Alayna Alexis is an independent scholar with wide-ranging interests related to human and other animal liberation. She orients her life toward undoing oppression through her vegan practice, teaching and writing, and various types of organizing in her community. She is co-founder and co-organizer of Jesus Radicals, an online space for exploring faith, politics and the particular connections between anarchism and Christianity, and host of its Iconocast Canvas podcast. She works at Anabaptist Mennonite Biblical Seminary on the communication team and as the intercultural competence and undoing racism coordinator.